Created on 2008-01-11 12:11:09.

Francis Bourre: 10:03:02: bonjour à tous! :)
Néhémie Cédric: 10:03:13: pareil
Laurent Deketelaere: 10:03:30: Salut :)
Aigret Axel: 10:03:35: One again Everybody :D
Néhémie Cédric: 10:03:38: pedro n'a pas été ajouté il me semblre
Francis Bourre: 10:04:11: Ok, let me resume the context
Laurent Deketelaere: 10:04:15: 2 plantage de Skype en 1 minute :p
Francis Bourre: 10:04:32: LowRA's devt has been relaunched monday
Francis Bourre: 10:05:00: There are 4 parts that need to be covered (tell me if I forgot one)
Francis Bourre: 10:05:21: - framework development (I'll explore the details later)
Francis Bourre: 10:05:35: - documentation (framework doc and tutorials)
Francis Bourre: 10:05:38: - testing
Francis Bourre: 10:05:43: - community tools
Francis Bourre: 10:06:01: anything more we need?
mickael: 10:06:20: welcome gilles
Aigret Axel: 10:06:26: good part i think
gilles Bertrand: 10:06:32: hello all
Aigret Axel: 10:06:39: hi :D
Néhémie Cédric: 10:06:39: hi
Francis Bourre: 10:06:43: ok, so let's continue!
Francis Bourre: 10:06:48: about framework devt
Francis Bourre: 10:07:26: that's an open-source project and a real community project (pixlib wasn't community oreiented)
Francis Bourre: 10:07:46: lowra was in standby till few months
Francis Bourre: 10:08:11: there was some inconsistencies
Francis Bourre: 10:08:16: 2 repositories
Francis Bourre: 10:08:33: some parallel versions (xavier, laurent, prizee ...)
Francis Bourre: 10:09:02: wee need to get a perfect working trunk at this time
Francis Bourre: 10:09:16: with full ioc implementations
Francis Bourre: 10:09:31: so what are the tasks we define these last days:
Francis Bourre: 10:09:51: - Collections <- Cedric worked on it
Francis Bourre: 10:10:00: Cédric can you resume what you've done at this time?
Néhémie Cédric: 10:10:06: ok,
Néhémie Cédric: 10:10:32: formally, I harmonized behaviors of the whole collections set
Néhémie Cédric: 10:11:33: for example, the collection interface defined rules for collections, but each concret implementation doesn't follow it correctly
Aigret Axel: 10:11:45: hashmap ;)
Néhémie Cédric: 10:11:46: the point I worked on :
Francis Bourre: 10:12:09: (yeah I think Hasmap doesn't implement Collection at this time )
Néhémie Cédric: 10:12:31: Hashmap aren't collection, but Map
Néhémie Cédric: 10:12:41: its another kind of data structures
Francis Bourre: 10:12:55: We ain't got any Map interface, I don't think we need one at this time. do we?
Néhémie Cédric: 10:12:56: about collections ;
Aigret Axel: 10:13:22: no just use basic class of package collection if possible :)
Néhémie Cédric: 10:13:31: nop, as AS3 doesn't provide all facilities java provide
Néhémie Cédric: 10:13:47: such threading,
Néhémie Cédric: 10:14:30: back to collections, now all errors are harmonized over implementations
Francis Bourre: 10:15:09: Cédric follows java behaviors evrytime it was possible (am I right cédric? ;) )
Néhémie Cédric: 10:15:11: type management have been moved in collection, in prevision of next release of the flash player
Néhémie Cédric: 10:15:23: exactly
Néhémie Cédric: 10:16:11: the documentation have been completed
Francis Bourre: 10:16:17: is it fully done (about doc)
Francis Bourre: 10:16:20: ?
Néhémie Cédric: 10:16:28: so i could suggest to take a look at it
Néhémie Cédric: 10:16:46: yes, the whole collection package is documented
Francis Bourre: 10:16:51: today, can we say in resume that collections package is finished ?
Néhémie Cédric: 10:17:45: i could suggest to add some advanced collection such SortedSet or other possible conversion of java collection
Néhémie Cédric: 10:17:55: but for the main part is fully fonctionnal
Francis Bourre: 10:18:07: ok nice!
Francis Bourre: 10:18:11: let's continue
Francis Bourre: 10:18:16: about structures now, we removed Point and Rectangle
Francis Bourre: 10:18:26: can you explain in few lines cédric?
Laurent Deketelaere: 10:18:33: yesss :)
Néhémie Cédric: 10:18:46: about the Point and Rectangle ?
mickael: 10:18:54: (francis, I paste the begin to flapflap private room hummmm)
Benoît Milgram: 10:19:07: Thanks ;)
Francis Bourre: 10:19:31: (cool! hello benoit! ;) )
Aigret Axel: 10:19:37: :)
gilles Bertrand: 10:19:41: )
gilles Bertrand: 10:19:43: )
Néhémie Cédric: 10:19:45: its pretty simple, they wasn't usefull, worse, it was very hard to work with flash and lowra point together
gilles Bertrand: 10:19:46: :)
Benoît Milgram: 10:19:46: Hi to everyone
Aigret Axel: 10:20:16: right cedric
Néhémie Cédric: 10:20:21: so, as they doesn't provide meaningfull improvement, it was more logical to remove it completely
romain_prizee: 10:20:26: hello world, sorry to come only now i was in meeting :)
Francis Bourre: 10:20:26: ok now, about medias
Francis Bourre: 10:20:51: sound pack has to be redone from scratch (crappy implementation, and big work)
Francis Bourre: 10:20:56: video pack has to be done
Francis Bourre: 10:21:06: axel aigret proposed to work on it
Francis Bourre: 10:21:11: axel, still ok?
Aigret Axel: 10:21:36: yep sure :) site after ...
Francis Bourre: 10:22:07: ok about data access now
Francis Bourre: 10:22:16: we got in the old version (lowra)
Francis Bourre: 10:22:20: a request package
Francis Bourre: 10:22:26: with too much abstraction
Francis Bourre: 10:22:46: abstraction can kill any workflow
Francis Bourre: 10:22:56: so I removed the whole request pack
Francis Bourre: 10:23:00: and created
Francis Bourre: 10:23:16: a service package more oriented ala pixlib
Francis Bourre: 10:23:31: the abstract stuff is done
Francis Bourre: 10:23:38: brb few secs
Francis Bourre: 10:24:08: http://lowra.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/src/com/bourre/service/
Francis Bourre: 10:24:10: here's the pack
Francis Bourre: 10:24:31: the good news is that we got an AbstractService now
Francis Bourre: 10:24:41: witch extends AbstractCommand
Francis Bourre: 10:24:57: so services will be fully oriented
Francis Bourre: 10:25:16: IoC, MVC+C, async process and so on
Laurent Deketelaere: 10:25:28: good :)
gilles Bertrand: 10:25:41: great :)
Francis Bourre: 10:25:45: we got a ServiceLocator that handles stateless services agregation
Francis Bourre: 10:25:50: that's a warhammer
Francis Bourre: 10:25:56: it's there
Francis Bourre: 10:26:03: now we need concrete implementations
Francis Bourre: 10:26:06: of services
Francis Bourre: 10:26:21: romain flacher is working on remoting part
Francis Bourre: 10:26:42: if some people are interested to collaborate on any other implementations, welcome!
Francis Bourre: 10:27:21: the concept is to have abstract access to data with injection
Francis Bourre: 10:27:27: with any techs available
Francis Bourre: 10:27:56: and to have the possibility to change the manner to retrieve data in a plugin without any recompilation of the plugin concerned
Francis Bourre: 10:28:16: it's a bit utopist, but that's our goal
Francis Bourre: 10:28:37: service (abstract part) pack is there to handle that
Francis Bourre: 10:28:57: and we'll do some refactoring each time it's needed
Francis Bourre: 10:29:05: to reach this goal
Francis Bourre: 10:29:31: any questions at this time? (for collaborations, ping me in private later)
romain_prizee: 10:30:01: does remoting part have to match your service implementation?
Francis Bourre: 10:30:17: remoting must be a standalone pack
Francis Bourre: 10:30:51: and we'll have Remoting service part built on it which will encapsulate remoting features
romain_prizee: 10:31:06: oki get it
Francis Bourre: 10:31:21: it will work in that way for each communication/protocol techs
Francis Bourre: 10:31:45: ok, about transitions
Francis Bourre: 10:32:01: cédric proposed to rename onEnterFrame
Francis Bourre: 10:32:06: that's a good idea
Francis Bourre: 10:32:16: but this will break a lot of code
Néhémie Cédric: 10:32:41: all Kairos notably :P
Aigret Axel: 10:32:46: lol
Laurent Deketelaere: 10:32:46: lowRa are used Keros in native ?
Laurent Deketelaere: 10:32:51: *Kairos
Francis Bourre: 10:32:55: (but it's time to break i think, lowra's is not even in alpha process)
Néhémie Cédric: 10:33:31: nop, but as I've worked on the two libs in parallel, there's is similarity
Laurent Deketelaere: 10:33:48: ok
Néhémie Cédric: 10:34:52: the big change i would made is to renamme onEnterFrame to onTick, which is more meaningful, as an MSBeacon for example don't define time as "frames"
Néhémie Cédric: 10:35:25: and optimize some stuff, such Tweens
Aigret Axel: 10:35:36: agree :) code must be the most clean and logical
Francis Bourre: 10:35:51: so everyone's ok?
Laurent Deketelaere: 10:35:59: ok for me
gilles Bertrand: 10:36:01: Yes ;)
Benoît Milgram: 10:36:02: yep
Francis Bourre: 10:36:20: Laurent Deketelaere worked on ConfigLoader. I didn't have time to fully check his work, but it sounds interesting, coz it's IoC oriented now
Francis Bourre: 10:36:41: It will be integrated in the whole framework next week
Aigret Axel: 10:36:41: brb 5 min continue i will get after ;)
Francis Bourre: 10:37:07: with maybe some modifications, I can't say it at this time :)
Laurent Deketelaere: 10:37:11: Yes, ConfigLoader has _owner + getCongig( name )
Francis Bourre: 10:37:45: I changed Locator interface these days and did some refactoring on all locators
Francis Bourre: 10:37:47: public interface Locator
{
function isRegistered( key : String ) : Boolean;
function locate( key : String ) : Object;
function add( d : Dictionary ) : void;
}
Francis Bourre: 10:37:59: FrontController is a locator too now
Francis Bourre: 10:38:20: we got GraphicLoaderLocator, ModelLocator, ServiceLocator, ViewLocator ...
Laurent Deketelaere: 10:38:41: FrontController == CommandLocator ?
Francis Bourre: 10:38:41: add is implemented and sounds cool for injection later
Francis Bourre: 10:39:00: yes, it implements Locator interface
Francis Bourre: 10:39:21: there are a lot of errors handling now
Francis Bourre: 10:39:34: so it brings us to the last part
Francis Bourre: 10:39:45: IoC
Francis Bourre: 10:39:56: I continued from the official trunk
Francis Bourre: 10:40:01: shame on me :p
Laurent Deketelaere: 10:40:27: ^^
Francis Bourre: 10:40:42: I did lot of changes (vs pixioc version)
Francis Bourre: 10:40:51: to bring more modularity
Francis Bourre: 10:41:00: about parsing, assembling
Néhémie Cédric: 10:41:06: another things we could talk about is the use of loop commands in IoC parts (notably for the build part)
Laurent Deketelaere: 10:41:12: When do you think have a fixed version of the ioc?
Francis Bourre: 10:41:26: everything is extendable, redefinable and so on
Francis Bourre: 10:42:18: lemme show a quick example to demonstrate the way I'm working on it
Francis Bourre: 10:42:25: public function ContextParser( pc : ParserCollection = null, assembler : ApplicationAssembler = null )
{
super( assembler );

_oEB = new EventBroadcaster( this );

if ( _pc == null )
{
_pc = new ParserCollection();
_pc.push( new DLLParser( getAssembler() ) );
_pc.push( new DisplayObjectParser( getAssembler() ) );
_pc.push( new ObjectParser( getAssembler() ) );

} else
{
_pc = pc;
}
}
Francis Bourre: 10:42:40: you can even define your custom parser with custom assemblers
Francis Bourre: 10:42:41: ...
Benoît Milgram: 10:42:48: oh yeah
Laurent Deketelaere: 10:42:52: mmmh :)
Francis Bourre: 10:42:55: so I can't talk about any deadline at this time coz
romain_prizee: 10:42:57: 8)
Francis Bourre: 10:43:32: the next goal is to have contexte inclusion, with a namespace for each context with references encapsulated
Francis Bourre: 10:43:46: parent context will be able to target chlid context with dot syntax
Francis Bourre: 10:43:54: we'll have global definition
Francis Bourre: 10:44:13: parent global defs will ovewrite chlid global defs
Francis Bourre: 10:44:22: when it'll be done
Francis Bourre: 10:44:59: we'll be able to work (I cross my fingers) with some real modular stuff with solid errors handling
Francis Bourre: 10:45:22: and runtime typing (thnx to flash 9) which rox for injection
Francis Bourre: 10:46:05: another things we could talk about is the use of loop commands in IoC parts (notably for the build part) <- sure! :)
romain_prizee: 10:46:24: it's in this way you would have xmlcontext include in xmlcontext? :)
Francis Bourre: 10:46:35: exactly
Francis Bourre: 10:46:56: and you could have 3 instances of the same context in a parent context without any name conflict
Francis Bourre: 10:46:58: ;)
Laurent Deketelaere: 10:47:09: ^^
Benoît Milgram: 10:47:10: So LowRA application with plugin could be quickly turn into a plugin itself ?
Francis Bourre: 10:47:20: exactly Benoit :)
Aigret Axel: 10:47:26: i named it PIP plugin in plugin :)
Francis Bourre: 10:47:33: it sound like meta-plugin stuff
romain_prizee: 10:48:02: ll be killer featur like you say francis ^_^
Néhémie Cédric: 10:48:35: for those who don't know about loop command, it's a way to spread computation over time,
Aigret Axel: 10:48:35: yes awesommmmme ! ;)
gilles Bertrand: 10:48:42: Great :)
Néhémie Cédric: 10:48:56: it could be really useful in the IoC part to get the progress af the assembler
Damien: 10:48:57: cool :)
Néhémie Cédric: 10:49:21: no more freeze when parsing a 100ko XML ^^
mickael: 10:49:31: :)
Sébastien Pautet: 10:49:35: :)
Francis Bourre: 10:49:40: yeah, it allows us to make some fake multi-threadin (I said fake)
Francis Bourre: 10:49:59: that sounds cool, and we must use it each time it's possible
Néhémie Cédric: 10:50:39: it's right, you can play animations during process without killing the fluidity
Francis Bourre: 10:51:06: last part, we still got some inconsistencies on GraphicLoader, just minor, and we'll fix them next week too
Néhémie Cédric: 10:51:31: and it's fully designed to work with lowra Iterable/Iterator stuff
Francis Bourre: 10:51:49: questions? did we forgot something you need?
Francis Bourre: 10:51:56: (about framework)
Aigret Axel: 10:52:18: like everybody i have my version of lowra
Francis Bourre: 10:52:21: :D
Aigret Axel: 10:52:30: and in it , i have put two things more
Aigret Axel: 10:52:55: one in BeanFactory to get plugin id , when you have instance of a plugin
Aigret Axel: 10:53:22: and two the recursive creation of object in xml :)
like create array in array without using ref
Francis Bourre: 10:53:46: about BeanFactory, it's not there at this time
Francis Bourre: 10:53:53: but we'll got: public function unregisterBean ( bean : Object ) : Boolean
Francis Bourre: 10:54:08: so it's like it's done, I will put it next week
Aigret Axel: 10:54:18: thanks :D
Francis Bourre: 10:54:30: yeah
Francis Bourre: 10:54:33: in load pack
Francis Bourre: 10:54:59: XMLLoader sux, deserializer call is useless
Francis Bourre: 10:55:07: if someone wanna fix ti
Néhémie Cédric: 10:55:07: one thing to note, for those who added stuff to lowra, we choosed to remove the I prefix in interface definition ( axel :P )
Francis Bourre: 10:55:16: and add some deserializer features
Francis Bourre: 10:55:16: welcome!
Francis Bourre: 10:55:26: yeah cédric's right
Aigret Axel: 10:55:40: ok ;) noted
Francis Bourre: 10:55:53: more questions?
Aigret Axel: 10:55:56: and for object in ojbect creation in xml ... ?
Francis Bourre: 10:56:01: more requests?
mickael: 10:56:02: yes another think
mickael: 10:56:15: just about communauty
mickael: 10:56:42: some documentation, discution and code are in 4 points of the web
mickael: 10:56:46: osflash
mickael: 10:56:50: googlecode
mickael: 10:56:52: ...
Francis Bourre: 10:56:59: we'll talk community later :)
mickael: 10:57:00: can we group all in just one
Francis Bourre: 10:57:12: nothing more about the code part?
mickael: 10:57:20: ok :)
Pedro Taranto: 10:57:20: hi guys, sorry I am late
i will read the history that mickael sent me to not ask a repated question
Néhémie Cédric: 10:57:30: I think the google will be the most important location
Néhémie Cédric: 10:57:51: as osflash seems to be somehow dead at this time
mickael: 10:57:51: yes I think too
Francis Bourre: 10:58:02: ok part2 (we're late ^^) about documentation now
Aigret Axel: 10:58:04: i will repeat another time lol , but could we create in the assembler stuff, the possibility to have object in object in xml
Néhémie Cédric: 10:58:06: the main problem is the mailing lists
Francis Bourre: 10:58:31: can you resume the doc state cedric?
Francis Bourre: 10:59:02: cédric is working on doc at this time, but we need more people, he already made an awesome work
Néhémie Cédric: 10:59:19: euuh... there's always a lot of work to be done, but, there's some package which are completely done
Néhémie Cédric: 10:59:24: - collection
Néhémie Cédric: 10:59:37: - structures
Néhémie Cédric: 10:59:51: I'm currently on the events one
Francis Bourre: 10:59:56: (if you have some docs priorities, just shout ^^)
Néhémie Cédric: 10:59:58: and the command one
Francis Bourre: 11:00:12: (I can't guarantee you'll be heard :D )
Benoît Milgram: 11:00:42: I think is a part I can help, I've some time (thanks to my new work) and that a good way to have a good understanding of all this
Néhémie Cédric: 11:00:57: I'll try do my best, but, there's some part which needs a lot of investigation :P
mickael: 11:01:20: I must go out. For now I can contribe to write any tutorial or wiki documentation... ++
Francis Bourre: 11:01:20: so we really need too some howto pdfs and packages pdfs, every ppl which wanna collaborate will gain some free beers :)
romain_prizee: 11:01:26: the community need tutorial and examples may exemple can be include in javadoc?
Francis Bourre: 11:01:50: nope
Néhémie Cédric: 11:02:06: about doc creation, for those who speak french, I wrote a small doc on how create documentation for ASDoc (which is really full of bugs...)
Francis Bourre: 11:02:19: I think that could be good to have some lil online books
Néhémie Cédric: 11:02:21: romain : yes
Francis Bourre: 11:02:26: like : quickstart
Pedro Taranto: 11:02:27: i agree, any tutorials/wiki/documentation/howto would help a lot
Benoît Milgram: 11:02:29: Thanks Cedric, will read that, first ASDoc test give me headache
Francis Bourre: 11:02:35: and every classical stuff
Néhémie Cédric: 11:02:39: i'll try do that when i cand
Francis Bourre: 11:02:57: cédric made some ant tasks
Edgars Simsons: 11:03:06: I don't feel strong enough to contribute in creating code, but I think i could help in documentation
Francis Bourre: 11:03:07: that are really helpful
Francis Bourre: 11:03:16: to make doc, create swc, make doc ...
Francis Bourre: 11:03:36: I think he'll share with you asap :)
Néhémie Cédric: 11:03:41: about ant and doc creation I could post it on the google code wiki
Néhémie Cédric: 11:03:51: when it'll be translated
Francis Bourre: 11:03:56: to make doc, create swc, pass tests ...
Francis Bourre: 11:04:07: it's fully crossplatform
Francis Bourre: 11:04:11: that's the good news
Néhémie Cédric: 11:04:11: :)
Aigret Axel: 11:04:24: very nice i want to try it ;)
Aigret Axel: 11:04:30: and adopt lol
Francis Bourre: 11:04:50: about testing now
Francis Bourre: 11:04:56: we use flexunit
Francis Bourre: 11:05:07: we got ant task to automate the whole process
Francis Bourre: 11:05:25: the tests are available in the trunk rep
Francis Bourre: 11:05:51: we got at this time around 365 tests (can't remember) but with lot of assertions in each test
Francis Bourre: 11:05:56: we need more
Francis Bourre: 11:06:02: but meaningful some
Néhémie Cédric: 11:06:07: about fcsh, we could recommend the installation of the iFac plugin for eclipse, I plan to make some test next week
Francis Bourre: 11:06:11: collaboration is opened too
Francis Bourre: 11:06:31: (yeah fcsh use would be really a nice add in our ant tasks)
romain_prizee: 11:06:40: test is a good source for exemple in some way :)
Benoît Milgram: 11:06:41: I'll like to help on unit testing too
Francis Bourre: 11:06:49: cool benoit! :)
Néhémie Cédric: 11:06:54: yes, I think that a lot of tests needs to be refactored, first to provide meaningful response
Francis Bourre: 11:06:59: so for any collab
Francis Bourre: 11:07:06: gimme in private a gmail
Francis Bourre: 11:07:10: address
Benoît Milgram: 11:07:10: Okay ;à
Francis Bourre: 11:07:17: I'll add you to googlecode
Néhémie Cédric: 11:07:23: and secondly to make the test creation faster
Francis Bourre: 11:07:24: register to googlegroups
Francis Bourre: 11:07:33: to communicate on your work too
gilles Bertrand: 11:07:36: i must leave hope to rad you soon
Francis Bourre: 11:07:51: last but not least part
Francis Bourre: 11:07:53: community part
Francis Bourre: 11:08:15: we have prehistorical tools at this time
Francis Bourre: 11:08:21: to spread and share information
Francis Bourre: 11:08:44: every proposition/collaboration to make it progress is welcome too
Pedro Taranto: 11:09:14: which is the 'oficial' mailing list? lowra/lowra-support/pixlib?
Néhémie Cédric: 11:09:23: lowra
Pedro Taranto: 11:09:30: k
Néhémie Cédric: 11:09:35: as this is the one the most people know
Aigret Axel: 11:09:36: i am open to dev the website base on a wordpress aka aswing :)
Benoît Milgram: 11:09:36: I think lowra need is official blog to public annoucement and communication and to be the entry point to user / developper and google to be the lowra's developper portal
Néhémie Cédric: 11:10:07: it's a good idea :)
romain_prizee: 11:10:21: yeap i'm agree with benoit need a central point to focus community
Aigret Axel: 11:10:25: i will use in base www.lesloleurs.com and change skin and fonctionnality to be a framework blog and dev work capabilities
Aigret Axel: 11:10:42: yes the window of lowra for common user
Aigret Axel: 11:10:52: and a point of explain for all of you :)
Aigret Axel: 11:11:06: you will be capable to write your post on the blog ... etc
Francis Bourre: 11:11:33: blog is cool, but don't you think wiki's the most important tool to share and store infos?
Aigret Axel: 11:11:43: yes prog infos :)
Aigret Axel: 11:12:00: but for common user , they want a blog , with tuto , video and sample to start
Aigret Axel: 11:12:21: and maybe after share of plugin :)
Néhémie Cédric: 11:12:31: the wiki can do that as well, and doesn't need to do anything
Laurent Deketelaere: 11:13:15: Yes, used the googlecode wiki or the osFlash wiki
Laurent Deketelaere: 11:13:19: www.lowra.org
Aigret Axel: 11:13:45: if we want to touch people we must do a blog , no? all framework with a blog is a plus
Benoît Milgram: 11:13:46: Wiki is great to full documentation, tuto, etc... Blog is to show the constant activity on lowra, but i'm not a wiki professional so maybe a good home page on wiki taht can act "as a blog" is good
Pedro Taranto: 11:13:48: [OT] if tweenpix.net could be back online, it would be SUPER, thera are a lot of USEFULL TIPS there :D
Francis Bourre: 11:14:00: :D
romain_prizee: 11:14:16: :D
Aigret Axel: 11:14:21: yes so we can stay on dev process and help on the wiki
François Cubaynes: 11:14:36: +1 for tweenpix :)
Aigret Axel: 11:14:38: a blog can be another way to show the stuff , not for same type of user
Francis Bourre: 11:15:06: so at this time, it could be nice to make some activity on existing wiki and mailing-list. everyone's ok?
Benoît Milgram: 11:15:16: Yeah
Damien: 11:15:21: agree with the blog for mainstreamcommunication
Aigret Axel: 11:15:31: yep and after when we have a alpha maybe lol
Francis Bourre: 11:15:36: and about blogging
Francis Bourre: 11:15:50: we could think about a ring
Francis Bourre: 11:15:56: i think lot of ppl
Francis Bourre: 11:16:15: would be interested to give their proper vision ...
romain_prizee: 11:16:21: yes and we need to choose one if we choose google ,redirect to google from osflash and clear the osflash page and svn ;) ...
Francis Bourre: 11:16:22: like the adobe ring
Laurent Deketelaere: 11:16:26: For the blogging it's possible to create an aggregator (blogs + rss wiki + rss svn)
Aigret Axel: 11:16:47: yep sur
Néhémie Cédric: 11:17:06: but who will do it ? :P
Francis Bourre: 11:17:06: (http://weblogs.macromedia.com)
Benoît Milgram: 11:17:26: Yes Laurent great idea, so as individual we can post on our blogs and keep the community and official thing on wiki
Francis Bourre: 11:18:57: individual blogs sounds cool to me
Francis Bourre: 11:19:03: with agregation
Benoît Milgram: 11:21:58: One thing I think of : Can we make a quick snapshot of package state (Final, Alpha, Refactoring needed) or even Class so we can see the ones on we can start documentation / tutorials
Francis Bourre: 11:23:14: which infos you need?
Francis Bourre: 11:23:29: it's hard at this time to evaluate some parts
Francis Bourre: 11:23:32: some are done
Francis Bourre: 11:23:41: for sure
Benoît Milgram: 11:24:16: I think we can just start to state wich package are OK and we not have big refactoring
Aigret Axel: 11:24:31: yes
Francis Bourre: 11:24:57: everything's enough stable to play with it (to work? yes we did it) except the loading/assembling ioc part and some loading inconsistencies
Francis Bourre: 11:25:11: (minor inconsistencies)
Benoît Milgram: 11:25:11: Okay :)
Francis Bourre: 11:25:45: questions?
Francis Bourre: 11:25:56: if not, we'll continue to talk on ml
Benoît Milgram: 11:26:05: Okay great
Benoît Milgram: 11:26:21: Thanks to have taking the time to do this !
Laurent Deketelaere: 11:26:39: Qui veut traduire tt ca en fr ? :p
Aigret Axel: 11:26:45: lol
Damien: 11:27:01: :D
Benoît Milgram: 11:27:46: Perso, je prépare un petit post récapitulatif en français, mais qui ne sera pas une retranscription juste un résum
Aigret Axel: 11:27:51: Can we do a quick summary ot task for people :D
Laurent Deketelaere: 11:28:04: oky :)
Francis Bourre: 11:28:06: sure axel
Aigret Axel: 11:28:09: parfait
Francis Bourre: 11:28:17: its all in the log
romain_prizee: 11:28:24: :D
Francis Bourre: 11:28:33: I'll build a tasks resume this week-end
Francis Bourre: 11:28:48: collab are still opened
Benoît Milgram: 11:29:01: Ok, will send a mail to you on what I think I can do
Edgars Simsons: 11:29:12: me too
Francis Bourre: 11:29:27: soundz great
Laurent Deketelaere: 11:29:38: Yes very great
Francis Bourre: 11:29:48: we're gonna bring to flash comm i hope a fucking cool piece of software huhu
Francis Bourre: 11:29:50: :)
Benoît Milgram: 11:29:53: Oh yeah !
Laurent Deketelaere: 11:29:55: lowRA est trop bonne :p
Aigret Axel: 11:30:34: All good piece in a good women :d
Francis Bourre: 11:30:36: see you guys!
Pedro Taranto: 11:30:41: i have some questions about using lowra
i have started work with lowra a few weeks ago, my main difficult is that its look like its only designed to IoC, even using NullPlugin
Am I wrong?
Laurent Deketelaere: 11:30:50: bye